Monday, October 21, 2013

UPDATED Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera SD Cards

I've made a previous post about SD Cards for the BmPCC but by now everyone knows the BmPcc is very picky with SD cards and will still drop frames with cards that are testing fast enough to write its footage; so I've updated my list with my most recent findings, I have not tested all these cards but my research (reading others results) indicates they work as listed.  All these cards are "rated" with write speeds fast enough for at least ProRes HQ and are recognized by the BmPcc and will start a recording but some start dropping frames after the recording starts, for those I added how long they can record before experiencing a dropped frame during a worst case senario (filling the frame with high detail content).  The more complex your scene, the faster you will encounter dropped frames.   
Please note that the prices fluctuate a lot so I just added the lowest I've seen for a brand new one on Amazon US or eBay US not their current prices.  Given today's prices I would say a 128GB for $100 that can shoot 30fps ProRes (30MB/s) is a good deal ($50 for 64GB and $25 for 32GB) then double those prices for 24fps Raw (60MB/s).  Also note that my write speeds are either the manufacture's rated speed, an estimation based on similar models or quoted benchmark test results from various sites; I have verified none of them.  All of this information is guess work "your miles may very" so spend your money at your own risk.

* = Someone else has claimed these results in a test
** = I've personally verified it
no star means it's assumed because no one has claimed tests for it
! = warning, with a note why

For CinemaDNG 72MB/s (30 FPS):
(28 mins)
SanDisk "Extreme Plus 80MB/s" 128GB 60MB/s write ($200) 11 seconds

(14 mins)
SanDisk "Extreme Pro 95MB/s" 64GB 72.8MB/s write ($120) No dropped frames**
SanDisk "Extreme Plus 80MB/s" 64GB 60MB/s write ($80) 11 seconds**

(7 mins)

SanDisk "Extreme Pro 95MB/s" 32GB 60.4MB/s write ($60) No dropped frames*
PNY "Red Elite Performance 90MB/s" 32GB 69MB/s write ($50) No dropped frames* !P-SDH32U2H-GES3(Elite-Pro Plus)
SanDisk "Extreme Plus 80MB/s" 32GB 60MB/s write ($45) 11 seconds

(3:30 mins)
SanDisk "Extreme Pro 95MB/s" 16GB 57.2MB/s write ($40) No dropped frames*
SanDisk "Extreme Plus 80MB/s" 16GB 60MB/s write ($25) 11 seconds

(1:45 mins)
SanDisk "Extreme Plus 80MB/s" 8GB 60MB/s write ($20) 11 seconds
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For CinemaDNG 60MB/s (25 FPS):
(34 mins)
SanDisk "Extreme Plus 80MB/s" 128GB 60MB/s write ($200) 20 seconds

(17 mins)
SanDisk "Extreme Pro 95MB/s" 64GB 72.8MB/s write ($120) No dropped frames**
SanDisk "Extreme Plus 80MB/s" 64GB 60MB/s write ($80) 20 seconds**

(8:30 mins)

PNY "Pro-Elite Plus 80MB/s" 32GB 69MB/s write ($140) Shouldn't drop frames !P-SDH16U2-30-GE
SanDisk "Extreme Pro 95MB/s" 32GB 60.4MB/s write ($60) No dropped frames*
PNY "Red Elite Performance 90MB/s" 32GB 69MB/s write ($50) No dropped frames* !P-SDH32U2H-GES3(Elite-Pro Plus)
Toshiba "Exceria Type 1" 32GB 68.6MB/s write ($50) Shouldn't drop frames
SanDisk "Extreme Plus 80MB/s" 32GB 60MB/s write ($45) 20 seconds

(4:15 mins)

PNY "Red Elite Performance 90MB/s" 16GB 69MB/s write ($45) Shouldn't drop frames !P-SDH16U2H-GES3
SanDisk "Extreme Pro 95MB/s" 16GB 57.2MB/s write ($40) No dropped frames*
Toshiba "Exceria Type 1" 16GB 68.1MB/s write ($35) Shouldn't drop frames
PNY "Pro-Elite Plus 80MB/s" 16GB 69.2MB/s write ($26) Shouldn't drop frames !P-SDH16U2-30-GE
SanDisk "Extreme Plus 80MB/s" 16GB 60MB/s write ($25) 20 seconds


(2:07 mins)
PNY "Pro-Elite Plus 80MB/s" 8GB 69MB/s write ($40) Shouldn't drop frames !P-SDH8U2-30-GE
Toshiba "Exceria Type 1" 8GB 68MB/s write ($20) Shouldn't drop frames
SanDisk "Extreme Plus 80MB/s" 8GB 60MB/s write ($20) 20 seconds
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For CinemaDNG 57.6MB/s (24 FPS):
(36 mins)
SanDisk "Extreme Plus 80MB/s" 128GB 60MB/s write ($200) 22 seconds


(18 mins)
SanDisk "Extreme Pro 95MB/s" 64GB 72.8MB/s write ($120) No dropped frames**
SanDisk "Extreme Plus 80MB/s" 64GB 60MB/s write ($80) 22 seconds**


(9 mins)
PNY "Pro-Elite Plus 80MB/s" 32GB 69MB/s write ($140) Shouldn't drop frames !P-SDH16U2-30-GE
SanDisk "Extreme Pro 95MB/s" 32GB 60.4MB/s write ($60) No dropped frames*
PNY "Red Elite Performance 90MB/s" 32GB 69MB/s write ($50) No dropped frames* !P-SDH32U2H-GES3(Pro-Elite Plus)
Toshiba "Exceria Type 1" 32GB 68.6MB/s write ($50) No dropped frames*
SanDisk "Extreme Plus 80MB/s" 32GB 60MB/s write ($45) 22 seconds


(4:30 mins)
PNY "Red Elite Performance 90MB/s" 16GB 69MB/s write ($45) Shouldn't drop frames !P-SDH16U2H-GES3
SanDisk "Extreme Pro 95MB/s" 16GB 57.2MB/s write ($40) No dropped frames*
Toshiba "Exceria Type 1" 16GB 68.1MB/s write ($35) Shouldn't drop frames
PNY "Pro-Elite Plus 80MB/s" 16GB 69.2MB/s write ($26) Shouldn't drop frames !P-SDH16U2-30-GE
SanDisk "Extreme Plus 80MB/s" 16GB 60MB/s write ($25) 22 seconds


(2:15 mins)
PNY "Pro-Elite Plus 80MB/s" 8GB 69MB/s write ($40) Shouldn't drop frames !P-SDH8U2-30-GE
SanDisk "Extreme Pro 95MB/s" 8GB 57MB/s write ($20) Shouldn't drop frames
Toshiba "Exceria Type 1" 8GB 68MB/s write ($20) Shouldn't drop frames
SanDisk "Extreme Plus 80MB/s" 8GB 60MB/s write ($20) 22 seconds
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For ProRes HQ 27.5MB/s (30 FPS):
(77 Mins)
SanDisk "Extreme Plus 80MB/s" 128GB 60MB/s write ($200) No dropped frames*
SanDisk "Extreme 45MB/s" 128GB 43.2MB/s write ($120) No dropped frames* (9 Minutes with 1.5.1*?)

(38 Mins)
SanDisk "Extreme Pro 95MB/s" 64GB 72.8MB/s write ($120) No dropped frames**
SanDisk "Extreme Plus 80MB/s" 64GB 60MB/s write ($80)  No dropped frames**
SanDisk "Extreme 45MB/s" 64GB 38.0MB/s write ($60) No dropped frames* (9 Minutes with 1.5.1?)


(19 Mins)
PNY "Pro-Elite Plus 80MB/s" 32GB 69MB/s write ($140) Shouldn't drop frames !P-SDH16U2-30-GE
Delkin Devices "Elite 633x" 32GB 80MB/s write ($80) No dropped frames*
SanDisk "Extreme Pro 95MB/s" 32GB 60.4MB/s write ($60) No dropped frames*
PNY "Red Elite Performance 90MB/s" 32GB 69MB/s write ($50) No dropped frames* !P-SDH32U2H-GES3 (Pro-Elite Plus)
Toshiba "Exceria Type 1" 32GB 68.6MB/s write ($50) No dropped frames*
SanDisk "Extreme Plus 80MB/s" 32GB 60MB/s write ($45) Shouldn't drop frames


(9:30 Mins)
Delkin Devices "Elite 633x" 16GB 80MB/s write ($50) No dropped frames*
PNY "Red Elite Performance 90MB/s" 16GB 69MB/s write ($45) Shouldn't drop frames !P-SDH16U2H-GES3
SanDisk "Extreme Pro 95MB/s" 16GB 57.2MB/s write ($40) No dropped frames*
Toshiba "Exceria Type 1" 16GB 90MB/s write ($35) Shouldn't drop frames
PNY "Pro-Elite Plus 80MB/s" 16GB 69.2MB/s write ($26) Shouldn't drop frames !P-SDH16U2-30-GE
SanDisk "Extreme Plus 80MB/s" 16GB 60MB/s write ($25) Shouldn't drop frames


(4:45 Mins)
PNY "Pro-Elite Plus 80MB/s" 8GB 69MB/s write ($40) Shouldn't drop frames !P-SDH8U2-30-GE
Delkin Devices "Elite 633x" 8GB 80MB/s write ($30) Shouldn't drop frames
SanDisk "Extreme Pro 95MB/s" 8GB 90MB/s write ($23) Shouldn't drop frames
Toshiba "Exceria Type 1" 8GB 90MB/s write ($20) Shouldn't drop frames
SanDisk "Extreme Plus 80MB/s" 8GB 60MB/s write ($20) Shouldn't drop frames
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These cards are unsure for ProRes HQ 24 FPS and may need more testing:
PNY "Green Elite Performance 100MB/s" 32GB 45.98MB/s write ($86) !SD32G10ELIPER-EF
PNY "Green Elite Performance 100MB/s" 64GB 52.9MB/s write ($99) !SD32G10ELIPER-EF
PNY "Red Elite Performance 60MB/s" 32GB 32MB/s write ($33) !P-SDH32U1H-GES3 (Pro-Elite)
PNY "Red Elite Performance 60MB/s" 64GB 32.8MB/s write ($40) !P-SDH64U1H-GES3 (Pro-Elite)

Lexar "Professional 600x" 256GB 45MB/s write ($450) !TOO EXPENSIVE
Lexar "Professional 600x" 64GB 45MB/s write ($100) 1 claim no details* !More expensive than Sandisk 80MB/s
Lexar "Professional 600x" 32GB 44.6MB/s write ($28)
Lexar "Professional 600x" 16GB 45MB/s write ($30) !More expensive than Sandisk 80MB/s

ADATA "Premier Pro" 128GB 45MB/s write ($125) !More expensive than Sandisk 45MB/s
ADATA "Premier Pro" 64GB 46.4MB/s write ($45) 1 claim no details*
ADATA "Premier Pro" 32GB 45MB/s write ($36)
ADATA "Premier Pro" 16GB 25.3MB/s write ($21) !TOO SLOW

Delkin Devices "600x" 128GB 45MB/s write ($180) !More expensive than Sandisk 45MB/s
Delkin Devices "600x" 64GB 45MB/s write ($80) !Same price as the Sandisk 80MB/s
Delkin Devices "600x" 32GB 45MB/s write ($40)
Delkin Devices "600x" 16GB 45MB/s write ($23) dropped frames*
Delkin Devices "600x" 8GB 45MB/s write ($20)
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These cards have failed for ProResHQ and Raw 24 FPS:
Sandisk "Extreme 45MB/s" 32GB 39.9MB/s write ($32) 30 seconds*
SanDisk "Extreme 45MB/s" 16GB 39.4MB/s write ($20) Dropped frames*
SanDisk "Extreme 45MB/s" 8GB 38.8MB/s write ($13) Likely drops frames

PNY "Blue Elite Performance 90MB/s" 32GB 35MB/s write ($25) 4 seconds PrHQ**/13 seconds Raw** !P-SDH32U1H-GE (Pro-Elite)
PNY "Blue Elite Performance 90MB/s" 64GB 35MB/s write ($35) 4 seconds PrHQ/13 seconds Raw !P-SDX64U1H-GE (Pro-Elite)
PNY "Blue Elite Performance 90MB/s" 128GB 35MB/s write ($115) 4 seconds PrHQ/13 seconds Raw !P-SDX128U1H-GE (Pro-Elite)

Sony "UHS-1 94MB/s" 8GB 45MB/s write ($17) Likely drops frames
Sony "UHS-1 94MB/s" 16GB 45MB/s write ($25) Likely drops frames
Sony "UHS-1 94MB/s" 32GB 45MB/s write ($45) 3.5 minutes PrHQ*
Sony "UHS-1 94MB/s" 64GB 45MB/s write ($75) 5 seconds PrHQ*

Toshiba "Exceria Type 2" 64GB 55.1MB/s write ($80) 4 seconds PrHQ*/10 seconds Raw*
Toshiba "Exceria Type 2" 32GB 51.5MB/s write ($34) Likely drops frames
Toshiba "Exceria Type 2" 16GB 56.0MB/s write ($20) Likely drops frames

Transcend "600x" 16GB 48.7MB/s write ($20) Likely drops frames
Transcend "600x" 32GB 52.1MB/s write ($30) Likely drops frames
Transcend "600x" 64GB 58.2MB/s write ($55) Dropped frames* !Many fail claims
Transcend "600x" 128GB 59.9MB/s write ($30) Likely drops frames

Patriot "EP Pro 90MB/s" 128GB 50MB/s write ($100) Likely drops frames
Patriot "EP Pro 90MB/s" 64GB 50MB/s write ($45) 1 minute*
Patriot "EP Pro 90MB/s" 32GB 44.1MB/s write ($45) Likely drops frames
Patriot "EP Pro 90MB/s" 16GB 42.9MB/s write ($45) Likely drops frames

Patriot "EP Series 35MB/s" 128GB 35.9MB/s write ($80) Likely drops frames
Patriot "EP Series 35MB/s" 64GB 34.5MB/s write ($45) Likely drops frames
Patriot "EP Series 35MB/s" 32GB 34.8MB/s write ($35) Likely drops frames

Komputerbay "Professional 600x" 64GB 50MB/s write ($30) Dropped frames*
Komputerbay "Professional 600x" 128GB 50MB/s write ($85) Likely drops frames
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These in particular would be worth testing for ProRes HQ:
Lexar "Professional 600x" 32GB 44.6MB/s write ($28)
PNY "Red Elite Performance 60MB/s" 32GB 32MB/s write ($33)
PNY "Red Elite Performance 60MB/s" 64GB 32.8MB/s write ($40)
Delkin Devices "Elite 600x" 32GB 45MB/s write ($40)
ADATA "Premier Pro" 64GB 44MB/s write ($45)

Sony "UHS-1 94MB/s" 32GB 45MB/s write ($45) 3.5 minutes*

Patriot "EP Pro 90MB/s" 64GB 50MB/s write ($45) 1 minute*

These are the best priced cards to get at the moment:
(ProRes HQ only)
SanDisk "Extreme 45MB/s" 128GB 43.2MB/s write ($120) !1.5.1 might change this
SanDisk "Extreme 45MB/s" 64GB 38.0MB/s write ($60) !1.5.1 might change this

(Raw and ProRes HQ)
SanDisk "Extreme Pro 95MB/s" 64GB 72.8MB/s write ($120)
Toshiba "Exceria Type 1" 32GB 68.6MB/s write ($50) !More testing required to confirm


I would like to add that shooting with a Sandisk 80MB/s card (64GB) I was able to get 3 minutes in Raw/23.98 without dropping a frame when filming random stuff (book shelf) 5 feet away in a very dim part of my office at ISO 400.  I got 1 minute 30 seconds when filming a spotlight lit very messy desk 10 feet away at ISO 1600.  Exposure settings were 2.8, 180 degrees with a film curve and I used an old (soft) Nikkor 35mm/2.8 pre-AI lens.
I recently tested the Sandisk 80MB/s card at a local hockey game, filmed in Raw/23.98 and got no dropped frames but the rink was dimly lit and my longest take was about 1 minute long.  Used a Tokina 28-70/2.6-2.8, ISO 1600/180 degrees in log.  I think it could be useful in raw, just be mindful of your content and keep the clips short, if it's high detail content filling the frame then you'll only get about 20 seconds.


9 comments:

  1. That 64 Gb Sandisk that you recommend, is that this one? http://www.staples.com/office/supplies/StaplesProductDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogIdentifier=2&partNumber=IM1RR4698&langid=-1&cid=PS:GooglePLAs:IM1RR4698&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=IM1RR4698&KPID=IM1RR4698

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  2. Yes that is the one that works!

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  4. Hi guys,
    great list - helped me a lot choosing the right SD for my BMPCC. Maybe that's interesting for your list:

    - I tried two Lexar 128GB 400x with the latest Update 1.51 and had constant Dropping Frames with both cards starting after a couple of seconds, so that one doesn't work for me
    - I also tried the SaveTec 64GB 60mbts (which is a new cheap card available here at Germany), but that one has Dropping frames as well

    I guess the Sandisk cards are definitely the best choice at the moment for the BMCC so i will buy me a couple of 128 gb 80mbs

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  5. Hi, tested the Transcend SDXC UHS-I U3 (R95, W60MB/s)
    http://www.transcendusa.com/Products/No-616

    DROPPED FRAMES from the beginning

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  6. I just posted this on another forum, but I figured I should spread the word... I just bought the 128GB ADATA Premier Pro SDXC UHS-I Speed Class 3 (U3) for my BMPCC and even though it is the fastest 128GB card I've tested using BlackMagic's Disk SpeedTest (64MB/s write), it does not work with the BMPCC. It would start (for a millisecond) and then stop immediately. It would create a folder for RAW content, but record no content at all. I’m assuming the connectors between the ADATA and the BMPCC don’t work with one another. It’s possible I got a faulty one, but since the ADATA works to record video on my Panasonic GX7, I would assume it’s just the BMPCC being finicky.

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  7. I have tested the Transcend 128GB 90b/s and it drops frames on most settings.

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  8. Has anyone tested the PNY Elite 256GB card? http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8967120&sku=KNY-102387952

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  9. Hey guys, I've been trying to spread this around to all the SD card forums, but I recently tested the PNY Elite Performance 256 GB Card (P-SDX256U395-GE) and found that it works fine with the BMPCC with all formats except raw (which makes me very sad). I think this is the most competitively priced card, or it at least was when I bought it at $89.99.

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